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ITIN vs EIN vs SSN: Which One a Foreign-Owned LLC Needs

An EIN belongs to the company, an SSN and an ITIN to a person. Which of the three a foreign-owned US LLC needs, which form asks for which, and when.

Charles Martin
Charles MartinFounder, CorpSec
Updated October 202613 min read
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An SSN, an ITIN and an EIN are all nine-digit US tax numbers.

They are not three options: one belongs to a company, two belong to a person.

The short answer

SSNITINEIN
IdentifiesA personA personA business entity
Issued bySocial Security AdministrationIRSIRS
FormatXXX-XX-XXXX9XX-XX-XXXXXX-XXXXXXX
Open to a founder living abroad?No, without work authorizationOnly with a federal tax purposeYes
Needed to run a foreign-owned LLC?NoNot at the startYes

For an LLC owned from abroad, the answer is short:

  • The LLC needs an EIN, and only an EIN.
  • You cannot get an SSN, and you do not need one.
  • You need an ITIN only when you personally owe the IRS a filing.

Three numbers, two kinds of holder

The IRS groups all three under one label, the taxpayer identification number. Its own page splits them by issuer:

  • the SSN comes from the Social Security Administration
  • every other number comes from the IRS

The split that matters to a founder is different: who the number describes.

NumberDescribesIRS wording
SSNYou, as a person allowed to work in the USApplied for on Form SS-5
ITINYou, as a taxpayer with no SSN"a tax processing number"
EINYour company"used to identify a business entity"
Three numbers, two kinds of holderThey are not three options. Two describe a person, one describes the company.
The person
SSN, ITINa founder abroad starts with neither

Two numbers that describe you.

  • SSN: Social Security Administration, tied to the right to work
  • ITIN: IRS, for federal tax purposes only
The company
EINthe only number the LLC needs

One number that describes the LLC.

  • Issued by the IRS on Form SS-4
  • Issued without an SSN or an ITIN
Line 7b of Form SS-4 is the one place the person's number is asked for to get the company's, and it accepts "foreign".
Source: IRS, Taxpayer identification numbers; Instructions for Form SS-4

One number belongs to the company, two belong to a person. A foreign-owned LLC runs on its EIN alone until its owner personally has something to file.

Why a foreign founder cannot get an SSN

A federal regulation lists who can be assigned an SSN:

  1. a US citizen
  2. a foreign national admitted as a permanent resident, or otherwise authorized to work in the US
  3. a foreign national with no work authorization, for one non-work reason only

That third case is narrow. It covers a federal, state or local law that requires an SSN to receive a public benefit, and the card is then marked as not valid for employment.

Owning a company is not on the list. So:

  • forming an LLC does not make you eligible
  • holding an EIN does not make you eligible

The EIN: the only number the LLC needs

The EIN is the company's federal tax number. The IRS issues it on Form SS-4 through four routes, and two of them depend on where you are.

RouteOpen to a founder abroad?What the IRS says
OnlineNoOnly for applicants in the US, with an SSN, ITIN or EIN
PhoneYesOnly for applicants outside the US
FaxYesGenerally within 4 business days
MailYesAbout 4 weeks

The phone line is the one many guides get wrong. The SS-4 instructions reserve it for you: "Only international applicants can receive an EIN by telephone."

  • Number: 267-941-1099, not toll-free
  • Hours: 6 a.m. to 11 p.m. Eastern time, Monday to Friday
  • Fax from outside the US: 304-707-9471

Then comes line 7b, which asks for the SSN or ITIN of the responsible party. The instructions are exact:

  • enter "foreign" or N/A if that person has no SSN or ITIN and is ineligible to obtain one
  • never leave the line blank, because "an entry is required"
  • name an individual, not another company, as the responsible party

Two limits apply to everyone:

  • one EIN per responsible party per day, whatever the route
  • a change of responsible party goes on Form 8822-B within 60 days

The step-by-step version sits in our guide to owning a Delaware LLC as a non-resident.

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The ITIN: when the owner needs one personally

The IRS issues an ITIN "for federal tax purposes only", to a person who is not eligible for an SSN. The whole question is whether you have such a purpose.

Federal tax purpose, per the IRSTypical founder case
You are legally required to file a federal returnThe LLC's income is connected with a US trade or business
You want a refund or a tax benefitTax was over-withheld on a US payment
You can be claimed as a spouse or dependentRare for a founder abroad
You must furnish a number for another federal tax reasonA tax treaty claim on US-source income

The sentence competitors leave out comes from the same IRS page: "Generally, a tax return that contains all zero entries will not show a federal tax purpose." In that case you do not file, and you do not apply.

Our Delaware tax guide lists when a non-resident owner files a personal Form 1040-NR, which requires an ITIN:

  • the LLC has effectively connected income
  • you claim a refund of tax withheld
  • you make a treaty claim
  • you file protectively in a gray area

What an ITIN does not give you, in the IRS's own list:

  • no right to work in the US
  • no immigration status
  • no Social Security benefits and no Earned Income Tax Credit
  • no value as identification outside the federal tax system

How to get an ITIN, and how it lapses

You apply on Form W-7. As a rule it travels attached to a federal tax return, unless you meet a documented exception.

  • Exception 1 covers passive income, third-party withholding and tax treaty benefits.
  • Reason "a" on the form is the nonresident claiming a treaty benefit.
  • Documents must be originals or copies certified by the issuing agency, and current.

There are three ways to file it:

  1. by mail to the IRS
  2. in person at an IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center
  3. through an Acceptance Agent or Certifying Acceptance Agent
SituationIRS processing time
Standard7 weeks
Tax season, January 15 to April 309 to 11 weeks
Applied from overseas9 to 11 weeks

An ITIN also expires, which no competing page mentions. One that is not used on a federal return for three consecutive tax years lapses on December 31 after the third year.

  • Renew it only if it must appear on a federal return.
  • An expired ITIN can still be used on information returns, such as a Form 1099.

Which form asks for which number

The question usually arrives as a blank field on a form.

Form or requestNumber it wantsWhat a founder abroad enters
Delaware formation filingNoneNothing, the state asks the owner for no tax number
Form SS-4, line 7bSSN or ITIN of the responsible party"foreign" or N/A
Form 5472 with pro forma Form 1120The LLC's EINThe EIN
Form W-8BEN, line 5SSN or ITINYour ITIN, if you hold one
Form W-8BEN, line 6aForeign tax numberYour home country number
Form 1040-NRSSN or ITINAn ITIN, applied for with Form W-7

Three notes on that table:

  • Form 5472 is due from a US company that is 25% foreign-owned, "including a foreign-owned U.S. disregarded entity".
  • On Form W-8BEN, certain treaty claims need line 5 or line 6, so a foreign tax number can carry the claim.
  • State forms use a different identifier, and the state file number is not the EIN.

What banks and payment processors ask for

This part is private policy, not law, so it changes without notice. One statement holds across providers: no US business account opens without the LLC's EIN.

On the signer's personal number, requirements vary by institution.

Type of providerWhat it tends to ask of the signer
Online business account providersOften a passport, with no SSN required
Traditional branch banksSome ask for an SSN or ITIN, plus a visit
Payment processorsVaries, check the onboarding form first

When a form insists on an SSN, do not invent one and do not enter the EIN in its place. Ask the provider which document it accepts from a non-US signer.

Four founders, four answers

FounderEINITINSSN
Single-member LLC, no US activity, owner abroadYesNoNo
Same LLC, income connected with a US trade or businessYesYes, for Form 1040-NRNo
Owner claiming a treaty benefit on US-source incomeYesUsually, or a foreign tax number on Form W-8BENNo
Owner who later gains US work authorizationYesNo longer, an SSN replaces itYes

The last row follows an IRS rule: anyone eligible for an SSN does not need an ITIN.

Multi-member LLCs are a separate case. Partnership withholding rules can require tax numbers from the partners, so confirm with a tax adviser before the first US-source dollar arrives.

The practical order stays the same for almost everyone:

  1. form the LLC
  2. get the EIN
  3. open the account
  4. apply for an ITIN only if a filing requires it
How long each number takes from abroadIRS processing times, in days. The company's number arrives long before the owner's.
EIN by fax4 business days
EIN by mailabout 4 weeks
ITIN, standard7 weeks
ITIN, from overseas9 to 11 weeks
Source: IRS, Instructions for Form SS-4 and How to apply for an ITIN

Four claims circulate on provider blogs. Each one fails against the IRS text.

ClaimWhat the IRS says
"The phone route needs an SSN or ITIN"The phone route is reserved for international applicants
"Leave line 7b blank"An entry is required: "foreign" or N/A
"Every foreign owner needs an ITIN"Only with a federal tax purpose, and an all-zero return shows none
"An ITIN lets you work or prove identity"It is for federal tax use only

The summary

QuestionAnswer
Which number does the LLC need?An EIN
Can I get an EIN without an SSN or ITIN?Yes, with "foreign" or N/A on line 7b
Which EIN routes are open from abroad?Phone, fax and mail, not online
Can I get an SSN as a foreign owner?No, not without US work authorization
When do I need an ITIN?When I personally have a federal tax purpose
How long does an ITIN take?7 weeks, or 9 to 11 from overseas
Does an ITIN expire?Yes, after three unused tax years

Frequently asked questions

What is the difference between an ITIN, an EIN and an SSN?

An SSN and an ITIN identify a person, and an EIN identifies a business entity. The SSN comes from the Social Security Administration. The ITIN and the EIN come from the IRS.

Do I need an ITIN for an LLC?

No. Delaware asks the owner for no tax number, and Form SS-4 accepts "foreign" on line 7b. You need an ITIN only when you personally have a federal tax purpose.

Can I get an EIN without an SSN or ITIN?

Yes. Enter "foreign" or N/A on line 7b of Form SS-4, then apply by phone, fax or mail. Only the online application requires an existing US number.

Can a non-US resident get an SSN?

Only with permanent residence or US work authorization, or in a narrow case tied to a public benefit. Owning a US company does not qualify. A founder abroad runs the LLC without one.

Is an ITIN the same as an EIN?

No. An ITIN is a personal tax processing number for someone who cannot get an SSN. An EIN is the company's federal tax number, and the two never substitute for each other.

Can I use my EIN instead of an SSN?

Only where the form asks for the company's number. A field that asks for the signer's personal number wants an SSN or ITIN, and an EIN in that field is wrong.

Should I get the ITIN or the EIN first?

The EIN. It does not depend on an ITIN, and banks ask for it first. An ITIN application normally travels with a tax return, so it comes later, if at all.

How long does an ITIN take?

The IRS says to allow 7 weeks. It is 9 to 11 weeks during tax season, from January 15 to April 30, or when you apply from overseas.

Does an ITIN expire?

Yes. An ITIN not used on a federal return for three consecutive tax years expires on December 31 after the third year. Renew it only if you need it on a federal return.

Does an ITIN let me work in the United States?

No. The IRS states that an ITIN does not authorize work, does not change immigration status and gives no Social Security benefits. It exists for federal tax filing only.

Sources

The definitions of the three numbers, the SSN eligibility rule, the Form SS-4 routes and line 7b wording, the ITIN purpose test, processing times and expiry rule are taken from the IRS pages, form instructions and the federal regulation listed, consulted in October 2026. What banks and payment processors ask for is private commercial policy, not law, and it varies by institution. The cases where an owner files a personal return are summarized from our Delaware tax guide. This is informational, not tax or legal advice.

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